If he's 'not in Heat magazine', he probably wasn't hugely famous - certainly not an A-lister.
Perhaps he has a blog and was famous to Sarah and me and thirteen others.
Well, Andrew, he was a bit more famous than that. Not being in Heat (not that I have ever opened its pages) was a reference to the quality rather than the quantity of his celebrity. I may have a funny idea, of course, of what constitutes mentionworthiness, but this was someone whom I was surprised to see without an armed bodyguard, which is why I didn't like to mention it straight away.... It was David Trimble. There now, that is pretty impressive, isn't it. Real ale adviser to one of the brokers of peace in Northern Ireland. (I don't think he had any though.)